the german chancellor angela merkel joined president obama at the white house for a joint news conference. during the question and answer session with reporters both leaders said more sanctions against russia would be forthcoming if ukraine's big neighbour did not stop interfering in the country's internal affairs. still with us for a look at the worsening situation, from new york. david, director of the programme at the carnegie council for ethics and international affairs. from kiev professor andreas taking at the kiev academy, and here in the studio george benites drog of the atlantic -- director of the atlantic council's n.a.t.o. source. i look at the video and wonder who are the guys is this some look like young fellows with not enough to do. some are carrying weapons that you don't have around the house hunting birds and deer. they are waving not russian flags, but flags that carry old soviet iconography, hammers and sickles. portraits of stalin, who are these guys? >> a good question. again i refer to maydan, who were those guys - a motley crew. a crew seeking the right to self-det